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Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:33 am
by Tackskull
Hi there,

I have a japanese dreamcast with a terraonion MODE installed.

Since most games run well, I founde that some games didn't support RGB output, in fact for theese games I downloaded the patched version here on dreamcast talk.

Bu there are still some games witch wont start. In the specific Urban Chaos and NBA2k (I will probably find some others).

I tried both the PAL and US version of Urban Chaos, and both didn't work. I tried the CD version of the game, and for some reason it works. SO why Urban Chaos doesn't work in the GD format but works on CD format? How can I make htese games work on GD format?

Thanks

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:02 am
by MoeFoh
Tackskull wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:33 am Hi there,

I have a japanese dreamcast with a terraonion MODE installed.

Since most games run well, I founde that some games didn't support RGB output, in fact for theese games I downloaded the patched version here on dreamcast talk.

Bu there are still some games witch wont start. In the specific Urban Chaos and NBA2k (I will probably find some others).

I tried both the PAL and US version of Urban Chaos, and both didn't work. I tried the CD version of the game, and for some reason it works. SO why Urban Chaos doesn't work in the GD format but works on CD format? How can I make htese games work on GD format?

Thanks
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... le/pubhtml

Urban Chaos:
The GDI would require patching, which has been done for the CDI version.

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:18 am
by Tackskull
I see, I didn't know so many dreamcast games have problems. So I'll just go with the CD version.

Thanks

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:21 am
by ateam
Try this test GDI, where I ported over the Asian/European console incompatibility patch to the GDI. I assume this also includes RGB support?

Urban Chaos (RGB Compatible + Compatible with Asian and European Consoles) [GDI].zip
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=down ... w9y_ZAJ-2f

I have no idea if this works, so let me know! Using the Demul emulator, if I set my cable type to RGB, the original retail version of the game resets to BIOS. If I use the GDI above, it works, so it'd seem that you'll be good to go with this :D

If it doesn't, share with me the specific CDI you're using, which does work.

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:27 am
by Tackskull
ateam wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:21 am Try this test GDI, where I ported over the Asian/European console incompatibility patch to the GDI. I assume this also includes RGB support?

Urban Chaos (RGB Compatible + Compatible with Asian and European Consoles) [GDI].zip
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=down ... w9y_ZAJ-2f

I have no idea if this works, so let me know! Using the Demul emulator, if I set my cable type to RGB, the original retail version of the game resets to BIOS. If I use the GDI above, it works, so it'd seem that you'll be good to go with this :D

If it doesn't, share with me the specific CDI you're using, which does work.

Thanks, but when I click on the link it gives me "error 403"

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:28 am
by ateam
Tackskull wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:27 amThanks, but when I click on the link it gives me "error 403"
Try it again. If that doesn't work, you have me in the Terraonion Discord server. Just DM me.

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:49 am
by Tackskull
ateam wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:28 am
Tackskull wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:27 amThanks, but when I click on the link it gives me "error 403"
Try it again. If that doesn't work, you have me in the Terraonion Discord server. Just DM me.
I tried again and it worked, and the game works grate on my japanese dreamcast with RGB.

Awesome, thanks :D :D

There are other games patched? I would like to ask you all of them, if possible.

Thanks again

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:51 am
by ateam
Tackskull wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:49 am I tried again and it worked, and the game works grate on my japanese dreamcast with RGB.

Awesome, thanks :D :D

There are other games patched? I would like to ask you all of them, if possible.

Thanks again
You're very welcome, I'm happy I could help.

Honestly, I really don't know what kind of crazy stuff you'll see with a JP console and the Western library. RGB patches are also something of a blindspot for me, as I've always used VGA (and now DCDigital).

I have no clue about NBA 2K2, for example.

However, you can always report other findings here and see if anyone, like myself, can help out.

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:07 am
by Tackskull
ateam wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:51 am
Tackskull wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:49 am I tried again and it worked, and the game works grate on my japanese dreamcast with RGB.

Awesome, thanks :D :D

There are other games patched? I would like to ask you all of them, if possible.

Thanks again
You're very welcome, I'm happy I could help.

Honestly, I really don't know what kind of crazy stuff you'll see with a JP console and the Western library. RGB patches are also something of a blindspot for me, as I've always used VGA (and now DCDigital).

I have no clue about NBA 2K2, for example.

However, you can always report other findings here and see if anyone, like myself, can help out.
In fact, I found some CD image of certain games wich works. In fact I am trying rightnow the CD version of NBA 2K (not 2k2) and it works. Also Unreal Tournament wont work on GD version, but on CD version it works.
Now, I am not sure if theese CD versions have something different, but in theese specific games, hteri are named with "(CDRES)" abbreviation.

Re: Some dreamcast games wont start on terraonion MODE

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:08 am
by Tackskull
Tackskull wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:07 am
ateam wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:51 am
Tackskull wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:49 am I tried again and it worked, and the game works grate on my japanese dreamcast with RGB.

Awesome, thanks :D :D

There are other games patched? I would like to ask you all of them, if possible.

Thanks again
You're very welcome, I'm happy I could help.

Honestly, I really don't know what kind of crazy stuff you'll see with a JP console and the Western library. RGB patches are also something of a blindspot for me, as I've always used VGA (and now DCDigital).

I have no clue about NBA 2K2, for example.

However, you can always report other findings here and see if anyone, like myself, can help out.
In fact, I found some CD image of certain games wich works. In fact I am trying rightnow the CD version of NBA 2K (not 2k2) and it works. Also Unreal Tournament wont work on GD version, but on CD version it works.
Now, I am not sure if theese CD versions have something different, but in theese specific games, hteri are named with "(CDRES)" abbreviation.

PS: No sorry, NBA2k starts but, with audio but in black screen, and Unreal tournament doesn't start both in GD and CD format.