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Hi everyone,

Given that Dreamcast is one of the only consoles to maintain a dedicated online presence years after its discontinuation, why do you, personally, choose to continue playing? Beyond the obvious factors of simply wanting to continue playing the games you did 25 years ago, why do you think Dreamcast has greater staying power in this regard where other, newer systems have not?

For me, there's obviously a huge nostalgic component, but there's something else, too, that I can't quite put my finger on. Feels like we're keeping the system alive in a way that goes beyond maintaining physical hardware, making for this weird but appealing synergy of new and old.

As physical media diminishes further and the very idea of a console is brought into question, I wonder what 'retro' gaming will mean in ten years or so. Perhaps fans will similarly reverse-engineer internet-only consoles to still be usable.

Because it´s the most fun. Coming togehter every Friday for the Quake 3 Fragnight, hanging out with my friends and like minded people on discord voice chat while playing a great game is the Highlight of my week.

Just only for the fun. Never laugh so much on any other console, while i'm playing online

I have to point out that's like saying we have cars now why does any one ride a horse because we want to ? and it's fun.. It was sega's last console the real sega not the current one in name only..

Like remembering the passing of loved one .. There will never be another front leading sega console it's not like the others.. TIME STOPPED FOR REAL I own 12 of them and develop homebrew on it since 2002 and help indie developer improve and fix there games with know how and debugging etc. To me Dreamcast forever it's more then a console it's a family of liked minded people..

I feel bad for gatekeeping and blasting a first-time poster, but things must be said.

Mods, this is a spam post seeking user engagement. Kindly DM me if you believe my statements to be wrong.

This same article was posted to reddit at the same time as OP here, and many recognizable names from within our community have already responded.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamcast/comm ... es_online/

The source poster (u/NT202) posts 100% questions as original topics. and all comments lack substance. Everything published is kinda agreeable, non-specific, and absolutely lacking substance. Here's my based response, including supporting facts.

• Given that Dreamcast is one of the only consoles to maintain a dedicated online presence years after its discontinuation,
  A leading statement, with support by a weak claim. Many online consoles including all 6th-gen continue to have online play. Such as:
  1. SNES, Genesis, Saturn - Xband through dreampi
  2. Dreamcast - many known methods
  3. Original Xbox - Team Insignia community https://insignia.live/#games
  4. PS2 - PS2 online community - https://ps2online.com/
  5. GC - OK, online support is weak, but you can play still connect to PSO I&II. Also, 4 of 8 online games supported LAN play.
  6. PS3 and Xbox360. Official stores have shutdown, but there are a surprising number of official servers online.
  7. PS VITA, PS4, Xbox One - many official servers online
  8. The list of 100% offline is short by comparison. Nintendo DS, 3DS, Wii U, Sony PSP, Nuon, Stadia, and probably some older consoles with obscure modems.
• why do you, personally, choose to continue playing?
  Engagement question
• Beyond the obvious factors of simply wanting to continue playing the games you did 25 years ago,
  A presumptive statement, leading to the next question.
  why do you think Dreamcast has greater staying power in this regard where other, newer systems have not?
  Another question.
  For me, there's obviously a huge nostalgic component, but there's something else, too, that I can't quite put my finger on. Feels like we're keeping the system alive in a way that goes beyond maintaining physical hardware, making for this weird but appealing synergy of new and old.
  Nostalgia. and synergy. Synergy hasn't been used unironically in 2 decades. I'm surprised you didn't say it's a "veritible cornucopia of fun".
• As physical media diminishes further and the very idea of a console is brought into question, I wonder what 'retro' gaming will mean in ten years or so. Perhaps fans will similarly reverse-engineer internet-only consoles to still be usable.
  This one's a whopper! Here goes:
  1. Pysical media longevity has nothing to do with online connectivity.
  2. Retro gaming will continue to include old consoles and games, original or emulated. Nothing changes.
  3. Dreamcast isn't "internet-only" like Stadia. It is usable offline. An original retail console can connect to fan servers on the internet without mods.

Welcome to the future of AI. It's here! This sort of thing is the "new spam" and will certainly drown out other low-effort-but-legitimate help requests that typically bring new members to the community.

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Ask a generic question, and follow up with a generic statement. F*** these guys.

"How And Why Online Multiplayer Is Still A Thing For Dreamcast"
https://www.thegamer.com/online-multipl ... l-dreampi/

Where the internet was merely a cool feature for Dreamcast, modern systems continue to form a digital symbiosis.

What does that mean?

"thegamer.com, Founded in 2017 by Valnet, Inc..."

"Valnet, Inc.: The World's Leading Media Investment Company."

That's a good laugh to start the day, despite the fact that this sucks.

Holy shit I did see this back on the Dreamcast reddit.I knew there was something off about this whole thing well there it is it seems. Who ever thought we invaded by skynet here haha well they did say the Dreamcast was thinking oh the dark irony of sorts and the fantastic marketing SEGA did for the us launch.

I should probably clear some things up. I still have criticisms about OP's original post as mentioned before. My opinion has changed on the subsequent article on Dreamcast online community as published by "thegamer"

"thegamer.com" essay on online play is a separate piece; bridged by one quote from that original reddit post. I looked more into it. Kazade was interviewed, and his quotes are candid. The author is a real person, whose x.com account is linked from the article. Judging by their content they are a genuine Dreamcast "believer" and fan.

In general, I find nothing factually wrong with "thegamer" article, but how it's organized is sloppy. This was a commissioned piece, and.... the website claims to have 24 staff with "Editor" as part of their job title. A simple proofread would have turned this around into the fluffy, feel-good piece it's attempting to capture.