Brook Wingman SD questions for owners of one.

[Roareye]

It needs dual Analog support, sadly the guy who runs it didn't have a clue what I meant when I suggested it. Either a translation issue or he just didn't understand that the DC is capable of dual stick functionality (despite my best attempts to explain it to him).

It's useful to be able to map the face buttons, but at this point it's an out of date a concept.

I think if you break it down to him and show him in the Maple Bus code that it can support true right analog natively he might understand better. And those games could be hacked for the new input.

We could also have system reset added to possibly Xbox Home button or PS Home. Would be cool too.

You can see what all inputs the Maple protocol supports here, and another analog is one of them.


Analog inputs.

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/* Raw controller condition structure */

typedef struct {

    uint16 buttons;         /* buttons bitfield */

    uint8 rtrig;            /* right trigger */

    uint8 ltrig;            /* left trigger */

    uint8 joyx;         /* joystick X */

    uint8 joyy;         /* joystick Y */

    uint8 joy2x;            /* second joystick X */

    uint8 joy2y;            /* second joystick Y */

} cont_cond_t;

And then the digital inputs.

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#define CONT_C          (1<<0)

#define CONT_B          (1<<1)

#define CONT_A          (1<<2)

#define CONT_START      (1<<3)

#define CONT_DPAD_UP        (1<<4)

#define CONT_DPAD_DOWN      (1<<5)

#define CONT_DPAD_LEFT      (1<<6)

#define CONT_DPAD_RIGHT     (1<<7)

#define CONT_Z          (1<<8)

#define CONT_Y          (1<<9)

#define CONT_X          (1<<10)

#define CONT_D          (1<<11)

#define CONT_DPAD2_UP       (1<<12)

#define CONT_DPAD2_DOWN     (1<<13)

#define CONT_DPAD2_LEFT     (1<<14)

#define CONT_DPAD2_RIGHT    (1<<15)

Source: https://dcemulation.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 2#p1053192

I sent him all that. He still didn't seem to understand. I'll leave it to those with more tech knowledge than I to give it another bash. I contacted them on their Twitter if that helps.

[Anthony817]

Damn, yeah maybe just language barrier and all. Maybe we can try and get somebody in the community who speaks Chinese fluently to help translate for us and try and explain it better?

[MoeFoh]

"...owners of one."

Why did you exclude people that own two or more?

[Anthony817]

Lol, I seen one dude on YouTube who was sent one of them for all the systems they made them for. Dude was LUCKY!



Mine is currently in the US Post office in Dallas day after I ordered, so should arrive here to Fort Worth hopefully in mail tomorrow! Can't wait. I also ordered one of those Xbox One Elite D-Pad controller parts to mod onto my Xbox One S controller. So I will be able to have the swappable D-Pad on my controller for using 8-Way with fighters and other arcade games. If you guys have normal Xbox Bluetooth controllers, these things actually are direct drop in replacements for them, but if anybody else wants to do this you can get them on eBay for like $12 and do the mod yourself. So this will also work on Xbox One X controllers as well.

I just looked it up and seems they may work with original Xbox One non-bluetooth controllers as it appears to show it installed on the older controller design.





I am already quite happy with the joysticks of the Xbox One S controller, so not gonna change mine, but the sticks will work too. So if anybody wants to add those as well they can.

Here is where I bought my D-Pad parts.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/352104529139?h ... w&LH_BIN=1

But with this mod, it will be pretty much everything I wanted for a Dreamcast controller, well it isn't 6 button layout, but with the converter you get L and R triggers also mapped to digital LB and RB bumpers, so that is good enough for me.

[MoeFoh]

I seem to recall there were bluetooth radio incompatibility issues with Xbox Series X|S controllers and work only in wired mode.

I use a wired arcade stick and a wired 360 controller, so I never ran into this issue.

I don't think a firmware update can fix the connectivity issue.

AFAIK, Playstation controllers work fine.

Anyway, do some research and see what you come up with.

[Anthony817]

Oh I saw in the notes of their latest official firmware update Xbox Series X/S controllers were included, though not sure if that is what you are referring to or if they fixed it? I have the Xbox One S controller so that should be fine, but what I understand the Xbox Series controllers use a different version of Bluetooth altogether. So might be why?

I own official Xbox one S, PS3, Xbox 360 wireless and adapters for PC(though both adapters I own broke) and various PS3 aftermarket controllers and some PC ones. So I will test all the ones I have and report on it. Would be cool to see if my Saitek X52 PC Flight stick works lol. That would be insane! I literally used to emulate Mobile Suit Gundam Side Story 0079: Rise From The Ashes on PC with my flight stick to make feel like a mech simulator. Man it was awesome playing that way.

[MoeFoh]

Right, the LE Bluetooth radio in the latest Xbox controllers proved to be incompatible with the radio in the WingmanSD.

I'll be curious to hear if the Xbox One S works with bluetooth. All these Xbox models get me confused!

Xbox bluetooth devices have been removed from the latest chart.

[Anthony817]

Oh damn not good. I seen people show the Xbox One S controllers working with them though, so I know they SHOULD work. I guess I will find out tomorrow when mine arrives. But that sucks if Series X/S controllers are not compatible wirelessly.

[MoeFoh]

I'm betting the Xbox One S bluetooth works.
Edit: As long as you don't update the controller's firmware.

Original compatibility chart:

[Anthony817]

Yeah, from what I saw the original Xbox One controller works with USB so I would assume Series X/S should too at least. But pretty confident Xbox One S Bluetooth is good to go. In December I actually bought a cheap Bluetooth USB adapter for my PC to try and use my controller on it wirelessly, it connects to my other headphones and stuff, so dongle works, but never sees my Xbox controller. My Amazon Fire tablet sees controller though and works fine with it, I use it to play the Castlevania SOTN port and it is perfect. So hopefully should work with this. And also on PC which I was about to buy an official adapter for but seems since also works on PC should be good there too, even for PS3 controllers which are notoriously difficult to connect to other adapters due to specific Bluetooth it uses.