Does anyone else blame PS2 for Dreamcasts Death?

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Re: Does anyone else blame PS2 for Dreamcasts Death?

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Wow, that was a nice read. Reading this makes me think that Okawa just threw in the "Dying of Cancer" card just to get his own way. But did the Dreamcast really selling 22 million? i thought it was only 10? Anyways do you happen to have any details on what happened in Europe? And what SEGA Europe got up to, because there is literally no information on what happened in Europe apart from it did well..

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thanks

MrSega - a good (but sad) read!

If Sega ever released another console it would be epic - although i think its safe to say that the old skool Sega i loved and supported is long dead.......
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spinksy wrote:If Sega ever released another console it would be epic - although i think its safe to say that the old skool Sega i loved and supported is long dead.......
True that, Sega will always remain in my heart as a pioneering company that had grandios plans, and always thought ahead in terms of hardware capabilities.

But alas, the real Sega went out with the Dreamcast, and thats the Sega that I will always remember.

As for the 22 million units sold, I thought it was 10 million also. :?
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Post by 50inchDLP »

nice story man, I learned alot.

I would like to say though that while piracy hurt the Dreamcast, I dont think it was even a factor in its death. Everyone I knew had a Dreamcast ( after they played mine) , my good friends anyway. at least 6 people and NONE of us even knew dreamcast games could be burned. back then no one with a PC even had a burner, we had to burn CDs at school. In fact I only learned how easy it is to burn DC games from the net about a month ago because I wanted to play half life.

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Haha, same shit happend with me bro, and I JUST bought my DC that I have now 1 year ago at the end of this month on Ebay! Hell, I didn't even have a PC back in the day when I had my first one in 2001, all I know is that I bought mine used at Gamestop for $170, and 4X4 Evo, and then bought me a shitload of weed, and found Shenmue at a pawn shop for $10 MINT, and locked myself away in my room for 3 days until I finished Shenmue! Oh, how I wish I could go back and be 17 again haha!

I was stoned the whole way through, and man, was I fully immersed in the game! I ended up selling it a few years after that since I could never find anymore games for it.

After emulating DC games on my PC for a year straight in 08-09, I figured I needed to remind myself why I loved the DC so much in the first place. So here I am, after a year with my second DC, and loving every bit of it.

I guess you could call us lucky since it is so simple to play backups on it. Anyway, I doubt many people back then had highspeed net, and cd burners to significantly have an impact on the DC.

I think it was the failure of the 32x, Sega CD, Saturn, not having a DVD player on the DC, and no support from EA. That combined with the overhyped PS2 alltogether spelled the end for our little white box.
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50inchDLP wrote:with all the flat out LIES they told about what the PS2 was going to be. I have an issue of PSM from right after PS2 was announced that made like the PS2 was going to have online features that make the current PSN and Xbox live look dated. did it ever happen?? nope, they just said it to counter the DCs online and seganets MTV launch
Wow. With tactics like that they seem completely suited to their current competitor ;-)
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THIS IS HOW IT ALWAYS ENDS

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Re: Does anyone else blame PS2 for Dreamcasts Death?

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Anthony817 wrote: I think it was the failure of the 32x, Sega CD, Saturn, not having a DVD player on the DC, and no support from EA. That combined with the overhyped PS2 alltogether spelled the end for our little white box.
"No support from EA? ohh no i'm not going to get the same game over and over with the number changed to represent the year! Ahhh what am i gonna to do?" cried the Dreamcast. EA are big, but they are not that big. I thought the SEGA Sports brand did quite well to cover over the EA hole.

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Tamikaze wrote:Wow, that was a nice read. Reading this makes me think that Okawa just threw in the "Dying of Cancer" card just to get his own way. But did the Dreamcast really selling 22 million? i thought it was only 10? Anyways do you happen to have any details on what happened in Europe? And what SEGA Europe got up to, because there is literally no information on what happened in Europe apart from it did well..
SEGA of Europe liquidated its hardware silcon for Dreamcast to a British based company called "Big Ben Technologies" (The one who's logo was a orange swirl in why SOE had to use the blue colored swirl for PAL). I don't exact remember how it went. Except that Big Ben planned on selling a 300 pound DVD add on alongside Europeon Dreamcasts.)

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Re: Does anyone else blame PS2 for Dreamcasts Death?

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Tamikaze wrote:
Anthony817 wrote: I think it was the failure of the 32x, Sega CD, Saturn, not having a DVD player on the DC, and no support from EA. That combined with the overhyped PS2 alltogether spelled the end for our little white box.
"No support from EA? ohh no i'm not going to get the same game over and over with the number changed to represent the year! Ahhh what am i gonna to do?" cried the Dreamcast. EA are big, but they are not that big. I thought the SEGA Sports brand did quite well to cover over the EA hole.
Its obvious that EA is about sport games but don't they make other games as well. i thought for sure they made some other types of games. i know on genesis they did atleast
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