Continuing the bleemcast convo from earlier...
|darc| wrote:Why is it unbelievable that the NFO file that came with it would explain the true nature of the files?
If Rand Linden leaked the emulator on purpose, why would he lie about what the colors are for?
Well, I tend to want to find out for myself..especially when not knowing the source of the files.
And not knowing the validity of the information found in the .nfo
Also considering if this was a leak, then everything should be questioned.
|darc| wrote:Ian literally just said above that he did not test anything other than the blue beta.
Yellow/Green/Orange/Purple were never released in a cracked form online as far as I know. Please give me a link to one of these purported Yellow builds.
I am referring to the different betas that have been floating around the web since 2003.
Some claim to be blue, others claim to be yellow.
Who really knows?
Check attachments.
bleemcast.rar (allegedly YELLOW) 2003
bleemcast.zip (allegedly BLUE) 2003 by Jeffma
Bleem!cast Beta Boot Disks.rar (YELLOW?,BLUE?) *from dcisozone 2009ish
|darc| wrote:Because they are intended for different people using different Dreamcasts. This is really simple and you're making it out to be something tremendous.
I am making it out to be something tremendous because the amount of effort that was put into protecting bleemcast code was definitely insane.
The betas and then the final retail product was treated like something out of a james bond movie.
I find that to be way over the top.
|darc| wrote:The fact that you think they would keep this charade up for years -- to what end? -- is ludicrous.
They only had to speak about it once and it was taken as truth.
There is no reason to keep a charade up.
They already convinced the public.
|darc| wrote:What are you talking about, top level security clearances and practices seem like a joke?
Rand already said it was like maybe 10 lines of code to protect the beta.
You are really blowing this out to be more than it is.
To you it seems super simple.
But it doesn't change the perception that the paranoia level was heavy within bleem!
|darc| wrote:Every Dreamcast game has code in the IP.BIN that writes to a log in flash partition 3 with a record of that game on the system.
The code to do this is trivial.
It would be extremely simple to put a record on that flash partition on 5 Dreamcasts and give them to the employees of bleem! who were testers and have the bootloader Rand wrote check for this.
I still do not see the point in doing this.
Even though I now believe that it was done. {{maybe? or BS...}}
But why?
|darc| wrote:You have nothing but your own imagination.
I have my past communications and relationship with Rand Linden and one of the beta testers, all the public statements made by Rand and Rod, the NFO file that came from the same source as the actual binaries with no specific reason do doubt its veracity, the fact that the people who ended up cracking it never made any claims to the contrary to the NFO file and confirmed that all 5 builds are the same, and that someone like FG who spent hundreds of hours trying to reverse engineer the bleemcast releases and is very familiar with them agrees with it.
And you call what I'm saying 'utter bs'
Yes, all I can go by is what I think of the matter.
As for rand my point was its not like you can ring him up right now and discuss bleem! with him?
And I am not saying what you said is utter bs..
I am saying that my opinion differs.
About FG I truly respect the guy, I just wanted to find out for myself if the story of 5 dc's , 5 beta colors was bs or not.
I have concluded that it is not a conspiracy and it was actually true.
|darc| wrote:All 5 colors wouldn't boot it. So what? So his Aus copies are incompatible for whatever reason? This proves what exactly?
Ian said that the yellow booted the AUS copies and the blue did not.
That made me believe that there could be region code differences in the betas.
But maybe it was a misunderstanding or a good troll.
Either way it is still interesting to me.