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Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:22 pm
by PowerVR
Greetings,

Sega of America canceled the North American release of the official light gun due to the Columbine tragedy. NTSC-U light gun games are coded to reject the official gun and will display an error message,"PERIPHERAL AT PORT A IS NOT SUPPORTED IN NORTH AMERICA", if you attempted to use one.

I recently acquired two official light guns with "US-MODEL" stickers attached. I tested them on the NTSC-U version of House of the Dead 2. Sure enough the games and light guns work without issues. The Dreamcast used for testing is a completely stock NTSC-U V0, there is no region or bios mod installed.

The source of the guns originated in San Francisco, HQ location of Sega of America. I suspect these were used at SoA for testing before they were canceled. I'm excited to have these, because I remember being really disappointed back in the day when it was announced that they would not be releasing the official light guns in North America. I had to settle for a crappy 3rd party gun.

Below is a video I recorded of the testing. Not a fan of youtube, so archive.org.

https://archive.org/details/ntsc-u-dreamcast-light-gun-unreleased

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Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:40 pm
by mrneo240
Would you be willing to run a program to dump the information on the guns at some point?

Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:48 pm
by PowerVR
mrneo240 wrote:Would you be willing to run a program to dump the information on the guns at some point?


Possibly, how would I go about that? A Dreamcast to USB adapter?

I'm no stranger to unreleased games and hardware, and honestly the last time I released a game to the community for free, bootleggers started selling reproductions within a week. It soured me a bit on releasing things. I'm torn because I support preservation.

Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:51 pm
by mistamontiel
Amazing

I searched for HKT 7800 was that just the code given to the Japanese gun too? I've never seen it myself sorry just know the "official NTSC-U" Mad Catz and the abysmal Interact StarFire LightBlaster

Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:54 pm
by PowerVR
mistamontiel wrote:Amazing

I searched for HKT 7800 was that just the code given to the Japanese gun too? I've never seen it myself sorry just know the "official NTSC-U" Mad Catz and the abysmal Interact StarFire LightBlaster


I think HTK-7800 was given to both the JP and EU models also. I assume they would use the same model number. I think Sega accessory model numbers are universal.

Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:33 pm
by mistamontiel
Interesting seller told me his HKT 7800 works with NTSC-U HOTD2 when I asked if does for both NTSC region

Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:41 pm
by Thedom517
What a amazing find, props to you. This is rad. Nice job.

Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:53 pm
by PowerVR
mistamontiel wrote:Interesting seller told me his HKT 7800 works with NTSC-U HOTD2 when I asked if does for both NTSC region


I'd be surprised if it did, I also recently asked someone to test their HTK-7800 they were selling on a NTSC-U HOTD2. They told me it worked, but when it arrived I got the screen below. I'm going to be returning it.

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Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:54 pm
by mrneo240
PowerVR wrote:
mrneo240 wrote:Would you be willing to run a program to dump the information on the guns at some point?


Possibly, how would I go about that? A Dreamcast to USB adapter?

I'm no stranger to unreleased games and hardware, and honestly the last time I released a game to the community for free, bootleggers started selling reproductions within a week. It soured me a bit on releasing things. I'm torn because I support preservation.


I would just whip up something to run on the dreamcast itself, either by burning to cd or using some sort of ODE

Re: Official NTSC-U Region Light Gun Discovered

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:05 pm
by mistamontiel
Dawh man!

Sweet boobtube too! Mine's is red light I think 1999 manufactured

People mistaken that this or that gun works on this or that region title, as for the CDIs I don't think that anyone's cracked the gun check?